You literally proved my point that Kakashi's intang is useless. Later, after rescuing Robin from being sent to Impel Down, Kuzan had a conversation with Robin from behind a wall at the victory party, expressing confusion at why she didn't betray them like she had so many times before, she stated that she had found people that would care about her like Saul had said. As everyone knows aokiji should be equal to adrimal's who are in the same leauge of speed as people like Marco who reacted to multiple light beams from kizaru which if you did not know is natural. "Death God" Doc Q, Golden Lion Pirates Orochi Oniwabanshu Thing's just pass through kizaru since he is literally light not to mention the fact its not just aokiji who kakashi will be fighting its toshiro to you cant fight 2 people at once if they all are fighting at each other anyone could be hit but at the same time no one can counter aokiji's logoa using chidori wont do anything the move has physical ability as it hurt and made kaguya bleed saying it has physical ability, Also the kamui attacks wont do anything most of the attack's warp thing's to the kamui dimension which is banned since its BFR the only move kakashi has really is black lighting blade which wont do anything here since it has physical touch its not like everyone is bloodluste dno one will be targeting anyone meaning saying kakashi will just blitzed out of nowhere is wrong. Shiki the Golden Lion | No problem! "The Supersonic" Van Augur | World Government Officer Agents: Mr. 0 | He moved to react to it he reacted to it of course but he moved faster than it by reacting to it for example when madara used light fang against naruto, naruto didn't just react to it he moved his body to the point of dodging it. Cabaji | It was quite shocking considering that Blackbeard is a very notorious pirate. Only those with Rinnegan are allowed to intervene, the world that is adjacent to this world, but the farthest. Toshiro doesn't work on a durability plane. Why did Shunsui move 13km? Hakuba, Non-Canoncial When you where talking about Aokiji's ice resisting Ace's flames , you said that Akainu defeat Ace while using only 30% of his power..... where did you pull it from? Smiley | While they themself don't have many speed feats, Toshiro scales above Bankai Ichigo. Law. Scarlet, Kid Pirates Alias Toshiro can freeze people as well by touch and the feat's shown aren't impressive. Toshiro also has the ability to mistify the area, Create vacuum-sealed ice for distractions as well as freeze any matter around him. Shadow Clones split the Chakra, between clones giving 1/2 the users normal chakra, 1/3 and etc. Luffy fought as hard as he could with Kuzan but, ultimately, the battle was ended when Kuzan froze Luffy solid with a single touch. It was also multiple light beam's as when the attack just went out you could see mjutiple little light attack's being thrown out and like I said when the attack was about to hit whitebeard mid- air marco literally flew over there and blocked the attack even, Heck you could see marco flying toward's whitebeard when the attack was in the middle of hitting whitebeard. Anyway, it is bad form to admit this is a mismatch against your character IN YOUR POST, not even that, in your closer. The only Reason Toshiro didn't blitz the guy was because he was going to entirerly freeze him in general and he could Blitz Lillito if he wanted to as well. Dont let me get started on how Naruto's clones spread across the battle filled during the war has been keeping up with opponents around his level, Naruto's clone using Sage Mode and able to react to the 3rd Raikage is an example. Others: Kaido of the Beasts | It's not lightspeed and nothing makes it lightspeed as well. Also having energies equalized mean's like for example haki being equalized with your energy and chakra being equalized with haki this means I can just be hit and killed by any of your attack's and you cant really hit kakashi if that's the case but who know's. "Crescent Moon Hunter" Catarina Devon | Baby 5 | Bartholomew Kuma | You just ruined One Piece speed scaling smh. Wapol | smh... Anyways, I'll have my post up in the coming days. Today at 11:55 AM. This is why you shouldn't rush into CaVs. He believes in "Lazy Justice," which is unlike most Marines. Discussion Power Can current Law(Wano) beat Doflamingo? Priests: Ohm | In the English dubbed version, he is voiced by Jason Douglas. Anti-Villainous Enforcer, Marine Vice Admiral (former)Associate of the Blackbeard Pirates. Sometime along the line he was promoted to the position of Admiral. You basically threw the match. Miss Dounglefinger | The biggest surprise was that he joined the Blackbeard Pirates. How you come to that conclusion is truly beyond me when Aokiji's Ice Devil Fruit is literally his main offensive tool and his most deadly weapon. In Doflamingo's fight, he almost kills Smoker but Aokiji came, he gave Doflamingo a warn but Doflamingo still attack, then Aokiji froze him. Lao G | Others: Bellamy | Kaneshiro | Blueno | Vinsmoke Niji | Mr. 5 | The canon does not imply this, and only that Doflamingo considers a fight with Aokiji to be troublesome and opt'd not to fight him (on top of the Law/Luffy situation). Kumadori | Ikaros Much | No matter how you want to interpret Marco's feat but flying in to react to light speed beams is still light speed in only reactions but automatically gives him relativistic movements, not to mention, if he has observation haki then it would be sub relativistic movements due to using precognition to initially alert Marco when light speed beams are coming before it approaches. Wont be happening. He can also freeze people by just touching them he was serious when he did this to nico robin he froze her in a instant she was frozen so much you couldn't even feel that much tension in her body much less hearing anything in her body like a heartbeat another thing when she was frozen they had to be careful about bringing her back to the ship as if they dropped her she would end up in pieces. piece. first thing first my vote goes to @highmantra_x0sp even tho@epichotflamewas pretty close imo , lets see: @highmantra_x0sp: I chose to vote for you because in my opinion, you where the most consistent one when it came to countering , especially when it came down to Aokiji. Kaido "of the Beasts" | In terms of speed feats for the "fodders", Shawlong Kufang was able to Blitz Toshiro who could dodge Gins Shikai, Shinso at point Blank. Aokiji left the Marines after he lost the fight vs Akainu. Mohji | The entire premise of your scaling was that Aokiji>Doflamingo, but you neglect that Aokiji's Devil Fruit plays a big role in that. Ichigo with his Hollow Mask was unable to beat Ulquiorra and Kaname Tosen once stated that Hollowfication was better than Bankai and Tosen does Indeed have a Bankai himself. Naruto being able to keep up with the third Raikage using Sage mode which is a buff that doesn't scale to overall speed when you haven't detailed the Raikage's speed. Kurozumi Higurashi | I will note that I agree with how Haki would affect Marco's speed there, but I disagree massively with you completely disregarding Marco's movement speed as a factor. That is only 15minutes at the least and he said a 3X amp. In strength? I would presume he means people such as Shunsui or higher-class Shinigami because the Soul King Palace is a big deal and as we know it, Shunsui comes there quite often(Read CFYOW). He uses this fruit to freeze several pirates solid in ice. It's like class. Fraction Chakra should and I believe does reduce your stats in general. Caribou | Donquixote Doflamingo, Cipher Pol One Piece entered a two-year time-skip after the major events of the Paramount War finally wrapped up. C'était auparavant un Vice-Amiral qui a participé au Buster Call d'Ohara au cours duquel il a sauvé Nico Robin. Caesar Clown | That's like 3000mph-15000mph per hour dpending on how long it took and it didn't even state that it was a few minutes. ➙姿を視認できるのは, ''輪廻眼'' の持ち主のみ. Baron Omatsuri | @naronu: Once Rmao and Epic say yes, I'll open. Cool, he froze multi buildings sized shield. ➙Only the owner of the Rinnegan can see the figure ↑ 両目の''輪廻眼''が揃う時、影の数は四に至る ↑When the Rinnegan of both eyes are aligned, the number of shadows reaches four ➙術者に寄りそい敵を排除する影。ただし、実体化できる時間には限りがある ➙ A shadow that leans close to the caster and eliminates enemies. Daruma | Franky | I thought I would win but then I saw energies are equalized we cant hit kakashi but people can hit us that's not fair at all. While Kakashi isn't a Spirit, Zanpakuto is meant to cleanse souls in general. As in no knowledge and no preparation. Being able to dodge and react to a ball kicked at high speeds doesnt mean you can run as fast as said ball, once again. The entire premise of your scaling was that Aokiji>Doflamingo, but you neglect that Aokiji's Devil Fruit plays a big role in that. Mr. 9 | Guys didnt you say your character's wasnt pass FTL whats the literally point of me using this character if that was the case I knew I shouldn't have listened your character's fight people who re way passed FTL whats the point of make me be here If I have a character thats way slower that yours? "Blackbeard" Marshall D. Teach, East Blue Pirate Crews Aokiji. No one in One Piece has ever blitz, only reacted to Kizaru who is light speed and probably the fastest in the verse for now. The fourteenth season of the One Piece anime series was produced by Toei Animation, and directed by Hiroaki Miyamoto.The season began broadcasting in Japan on Fuji Television on July 18, 2010 and ended on September 25, 2011. Saint Shalulia | Madilloman | Why would I? Kop, Sea Kings He even froze his good friend, Jaguar D. Saul. So if he uses genjutsu, it's pretty much game over for both opponents. Look man even if he had six path's energy he doesnt have much chakra him using a fireball jutsu in his sussano would take some energy, energy that would wasted since if aokiji wants to he could just block the attack by making icebergs to block it for him. Equal to Aokiji? Kaido? Unlike you, I have a Viable Rel-FTL feat. Now that we have established Toshiro not being able to do anything considerably effective towards Kakashi in this fight, lets move on to list various ways of how Kakashi would defeat Toshiro with no difficulty in battle.... Toshiro can literally just Flash freeze the guy. Guarda. Edward Weevil | Basil Hawkins | Kuzan was present during Ace's execution at Marineford. Byrnndi World | EveI wanted to use someone else who was FTL+ but no you guys said the character's should be above FTL even though your character's clearly are this made no sense and this CaV was basically a mismatch. Charlotte Broyé | The reasons why Toshiro scales above him are simple, the previous Ichigo was unable to defeat R1 Ulquiorra while Toshiro could blitz Tier Harribel who scales above Ichigo dodging Mach 500. Trust me, it wont even take Kakashi 5 minutes to blitz and one shot Toshiro with kamui. Aokiji is the only Admiral, so far, to voluntarily leave the World Government. As an aside, this was the absolutely worst thing you could've done when you recently called out Eazy for being a troll and an idiot for using that same argument. Someone feared for his raw physical might? Where you get blindsided by an argument you didn't expect and are made to look like a fool. In this event you have higher chances to recruit powerful characters. Captain: "Big Mom" Charlotte Linlin Class filters Fighter Shooter Slasher Striker Free Spirit Cerebral Powerhouse Driven Evolver Booster Exclude Characters with other Classes Exclude Single Class Characters. "Blackbeard" Marshall D. 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